This video of Jagger absolutely looks like the photo that you find on search engines for Fred Hugi. Mr. It was obvious to the cops and the prosecution because they proceeded to get her daughter to testify against her because they had nothing to prove she was the shooter. 3. If Diane was bipolar, the non-stop chatter would have been inherent to the situation: bipolar wasnt a diagnosable condition at the time of her first trial. For the upcoming Halo TV show, original Master Chief voice actor Steve Downes was recast, despite Cortana voice actor Jen Taylor reprising her role from the iconic video game franchise. I am not one sided. They sure forgot to tell us about her pulse racing during these sessions. Leslie Van Houten is an example of a woman who probably will never see the light of day because of her high profile status. Her 7-year old daughter Cheryl died but her 3-year old son Danny and her 8-year old daughter Christie survived. Insulting a woman in prison since 30 years instead of debating the inconsistencies of this case is pretty pathetic. Being a patient of the doctor who saved the childrens lives has nothing to do with the facts of a case. No gun, no blood or gun residue on her and if she shot them, these elements should have been there. How one of them lied on the stand about ballistics? Therefore, those jagged bones were floating in a cloth wrap, merely resting in a cloth sling. I feel compelled to comment on this blog, because having recently read Ann Rules book, I feel exactly as you did. Nevertheless, Steve and Diane tied the knot on November 13, 1973. The children should have been receiving therapy throughout. And she clearly remembered the April 1983, rape that Mr. Downs would later refer to as love making. He still shouldnt have been allowed to adopt them while the appeals process was ongoing, if he had any role in those cases. Diane doesnt believe Rebecca is her daughter, rather a media puppet ran by Rule. It was faulty. You read a few comments. I do not care if the bushy haired stranger made no sense or if they could not explain the why of the tragedy, I do not care if she was madly in love with a guy because all that counts is proof and evidence in a court of law, and there was definitely a reasonable doubt. Christie was born in October of 1974 and Cheryl Lynn in January of 1976. Phenobarbital was administered alongside the Dilantin. why didn't steve downs get custodylagu sekolah minggu bahasa inggris Opinion Fox News's blackout of Jan. 6 points to a hidden crisis for Democrats The not-so-shocking revelation that Fox News will not carry House committee hearings about the insurrection is yet another sign that right-wing media will go to extraordinary lengths to shield . We already know that. What about the facts of the case? But you would know that if you had read the blog or info about the case. Robert and Diane even decided toget matching rose tattoos, but as soon as the ink on her tattoo was dry, he refused to get his done. And so, very quickly, they formed a relationship. Further: Wonder about Justice in Nation with world wide highest prisoner rate. When a unicorn and hungry like the wolf make their way into a court room during a high profile trial, its a red flag. Fingerprints at the crime scene were not produced by the State. Rule sued the Seattle Weekly after they published the article titled , Ann Rule promotes her books as true crime stories so to this day, viewers believe that the book and the movie titled, This reminds me of what a jail counselor named Rachel Roth said at the trial of Debra Milke , They already had made up their mind that Diane was the perpetrator so they laughed off the idea of the , When I hear some people say that they would have liked to smack that smirk off Dianes face when she interacted with the cops or the media, I say. I try to bring out the details that were ignored because Down was so unpopular. The police DID fingerprint the car, from grill to trunk and in between. a clinical lab to Dianes not being herself the day the Detectives pressured Diane to accompany them, the fact is Diane was clearly suffering the residual effects of that chemical poison in her system. but later you claim Diane was inside the car and shot the kids in the car and that that BECAUSE she was inside the car she should have had blood splatter on herso WHICH IS IT, I dont know which it is Libby. Great blog post, thank you. She met Robert "Nick" Knickerbocker and started having a relationship with him earlier. More often than not, Christie was interviewed by State Agents (Paula Krogdahl, Paul Alton, Steve Downs and Dick Tracy) within half an hour of having her Dilantin increased. This reminds me of what a jail counselor named Rachel Roth said at the trial of Debra Milke Its my opinion that this young woman has been judged in a way that signifies something to do with how we view women in our society. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply. Needless to say, you seem to have a problem with the American justice systemnot each individual case. The board said that her mental or emotional disorder makes her a danger to society. The fact that she drove there and it saved the life of two of her children should give anyone pause. View theaffidavits. The case is old and the blog dated, but it is never too late to respond. What happened to Diane Downs' husband? It gave Anne Rule carte blanche to legally use these labels in her book and it stuck. And what happened to her little daughter is beyond unethical. A group of ladies formed a group called HELDD which stands for Help Exonerate & Liberate Diane Downs. Yet in their mind, she was already guilty. And to try not to bash Dianes Downs character and stick to evidence instead. Nevertheless, what was done seemed out of our hands and we could have no contact with them at all. Yes, Christie said she did not know who did it. Andthe DA adopted her other two children. 2) You mention her youngest daughter, and how Ann made sure she only heard negative information about Diane. I am sorry the meaning of nonsense evades you like the facts of the case in this instance. Thanks for the link. It was pitch black outside. The time was spent waiting for the clock to tick down the final seconds for all appeals to the parental termination to be allowed. In what world is that O.K. Belli filed a motion for a 2-week extension to familiarize himself with the case because he had to be in Italy, and declared Diane innocent in a press conference, but Foote denied the motion and declared you have an attorney, use him.. She should of been sentenced to death. In the 1996 Federal Petition, you can find the Anatomy of Brainwashing that can answer any question on this subject. But in this case, she had no blood on her body or her clothing. Two of the kids survived the shooting with life altering injuries, and one of the children died. I recently found your website and have enjoyed it a lot. woman quot~ unquote, do you remember anything like that? Was that Annes fault as well? (her family confirmed that she had a mood disorder, possibly bipolar 2), So when Dr. George Suckow from the Oregon State Hospital in Salem was called as a States rebuttal witness and he made a professional diagnosis of Diane as histrionics, antisocial and narcissistic, he openly said in court that he interviewed Diane for 1 hour and read evidence presented by the state to make his diagnosis.. Moreover, he apparently told her that he did not want children and this statement alone would seal Dianes fate. (He WAS shot in the back remember). You seem to believe everyone is innocent. I lived through the media coverage. Brewer stood ready to testify in June 1991, that it was because of Prosecutor Hugis lie that he changed his mind to convict and that he alone was responsible for silencing the dissenting votes of two other jurors (Appendix 97). We had a thoughtful jury that examined the evidence over four days. Foote refused 30 to 50 reports by detectives of sightings or leads about the shooter but admitted reports from people in Arizona willing to badmouth Diane. Click 'See First' under 'Follow' Tab to see Tuko.co.ke news on your FB Feed. It is a research done on the case according to many sources. It did not matter that they had no evidence; they did not like her attitude and she was going to pay for it: opinion, not fact They examined her clothes also. Diane wanted to wait for her daughter to feel better, be accompanied by an expert and have the meetings taped? Some of your facts arent facts at all. I went on ebay and ordered multiple stuff from the 80s, news footage, just to hear what she sounded like, because of all the talk in the book about her demeanor. He strung her along, played with both womens emotions, and after saying he would join her in Oregon, reneged and stayed with his wife. She was judged very harshly for her character and her defense was dismal. But what happened to Diane Downs' husband? After each of the kids was shot multiple times on that fateful day in 1983, Steve cooperated with the police completely. (witness statement the gentleman who was behind her for at least 10 minutes). Diane herself stated Cheryl was asleep on the front floorboard completely covered up with Dianes jacket how the hell did a stranger or a hitman(one of Dianes OTHER stories) KNOW Cheryl was there. It was omnipresent in the courtroom as well as the Duran Duran song Hungry like the Wolf that supposedly was playing when the children were shot in the car. Then, 10 days after Diane was sentenced to life in prison plus 50 years, she gave birth to a daughter she named Amy Elizabeth. It will not make me popular, but I dont mind. Read More: Where Is Robert Knickerbocker Now? It was kind of interesting to hear Mossimo Giannullis lawyer pleading to have his client sent home or put in general population because his mental health suffered drastically in solitary confinement because of covid after 56 consecutive days in solitary. Being bipolar, she had no impulse control so it should not have surprised anyone. I agree that the phone call from Angel was totally inappropriate. I think it would give the blog more integrity and transparency. If you read the blog, you will see many examples of media hype and character assassination. I accept that it is sometimes necessary but I believe in rehabilitation. They rarely are, especially in the US. Lise do you know if the kids have ever reached out to the grandparents/family in the last few years? She always seems to have not a very close contact with reality. Moreover, it was not a suicide case, but of a woman who supposedly shot herself in the arm and her 3 children several times. Many attribute the conviction of Downs to the arrival of author Ann Rule at Downs' trial. Or that they are not even curious about it. But if you compare the time she was seen by the witness to the timing of her arrival at the hospital, it seems to indicate she went pretty fast, butnone of it was explained ordemonstrated properly. If there is one thing Diane knew about her lover, is that he was fickle and did not like trouble of any kind. No. What about the son saying that man and nurses noting that. But he overestimated the kind of people that would go along with this soap opera. Blood spatter is not an exact science, and is interpreted differently by experts. Diane Downs' ex husband, Steve Downs, lost a lot in May 1983 when his ex wife shot their three children, following their divorce in 1980. The two kids who had survived the attack were placed for adoption and Steve was no able to care for them. The blog tries to bring balance and more objectivity to a case that was TOTALLY one sided and still is. She had the right to a fair trial as much as anyone else out there. It is not my point. It should have been investigated further. I just tried to find a video or article about Hugi and I only get the one or two that I already have. http://www.salem-news.com/articles/july152013/midnight-med-tb-2.php If you had commented on one of the elements contained in the blog, it might have been enlightening. ), years in solitary confinment Whats wrong with us?! Mainly because she is being kept caged due to her name recognition at this point, not her offense. And Steven would hunt her down anyway and charm his way back into her life. She followed all the correct Parole Boardprocedures for two years with no hearing. It is not a plus, but it is not a crime either. Plus, the circumstances of this charade were more than sinister. But it is not hard to see that the way this tape and her confession were obtained was not legitimate. If he was getting too close to the witness emotionally he should have stepped away from the case. She felt fulfilled when she was pregnant because she believedit was the road to unconditional love. In addition, the children were suffering life-changing physical and mental trauma, which would take years to heal. Teams of people and detectives combed the area for months looking for the gun but it was nowhere to be found. Until the end of the trial. During his travels, he visited prisons and spoke against this type of barbarism because his father was imprisoned for a debt of 40 pounds and 10 shillings when he was twelve years. Yes, shes as guilty as Simpson. If you listen to the recording, Christie clearly says I dont know who did it. She was asleep, thats why. Hugi got the evidence needed to convict after numerous meetings with Christie. (Appendix 3). Then ask yourself if thats how you want your son to grow up. But if the blogger is arguing that the blog is balanced and objective, thats patently untrue. As Ms. Patterson left the stand, Diane complained to her attorney that Ms. Patterson had lied under oath. There are some stories that stick with you for a long time. The reason Im harsh is because Ive detected that youve paid for this site and therefore cant be wrong. Even though his wife shot their children multiple times, and the case was national news, he never surfaced and kept a low profile. I had visited Dr. Billings site several times and it is too bad that it was removed. In 1999, a Board Certified Psychiatrist practicing in Oakland, California wrote a letter to the parole board on behalf of Diane Downs to explain how things had changed since 1984 when she was diagnosed with a severe personality disorder. He did not consider her a risk factor at all and believed she would do well if released into society, because she had no prior history of violence and never had a problem with violence or bad behavior while incarcerated. Lise lasalle you mention THIS When she (Diane) resisted, he shot her kids and struggled with her. Thats the point. I still dont buy her story. This coercion came to Dianes attention in January 1989 (Appendix 39). Page 41 of case history. It was such a high profile case and she was found guilty by the media and the court so people are afraid to touch this one. There is absolutely no evidence that Hungry like the Wolf was playing when Christie got shot but it is another detail they added to bring a dramatic element to this trial. The weird behavior (laughing and joking in the shooting reenactment), bullets found at her home and the constant changing of her story only is icing on her guilty cake. The Parole Board had an obligation to parole Diane between 1998 and 2002 if she could provide reasonable cause to show she was not a danger to society. Nice to see this blog is still active in 2017, being a lot of groupsmessage boards and such, on subjects like this has no activity for years. Gun shot residue is not always present. The blog I read is all about the improprieties and flat out misconduct in Dianes trial (and the way Ann Rule profited off of it with fiction). Right after the shooting, little Danny would ask the nurses, Why did the mean man shoot me? and it would be written down in the daily notes. If you shoot at least 6 inches from a victim, you see what is around you in the car. But her behavior became the most important factor in the investigation that followed. Considering the lack of evidence, it seems that she was condemned mostly because of herinappropriatestatements and behavior. Downs is a worthless as the day is long.. Maybe you should read the blog before commenting. Not in this case. Steve knew Danny was not his biological child and left Downs. Downs was constantly provoked by inmates because of the nature of her situation, and she never once attacked or defended herself in a violent manner. And the motive? The definition of deviant sociopath does not even exist in the DSM-HI, which is the official psychiatric diagnostic manual. Guilt or innocence no longer need to be debated in this case. It is called a conflict of interest. The two older kids were Diane's with ex-husband Steve, however, Danny wasn't Steve's. Dianes story does not contradict that. The proverbial expression It takes two to tango applies here. Mr. 5. Nobody knows but her. Hysteria. Her family supported her. The only reason they kept her in prison even if she had all the right documentation and support, is because she is high profile. One should also wonder why their biological father who was so eager to bash his ex on the stand was not given custody, and did not stay in contact with his two remaining children. They should have looked for a possible accomplice and checked all the leads. That disinformation was alleged by Mr. Hugi the third day into Jim Jaggers defense and it was never objected to by Mr. Jagger . Would you seriously be confident enough to present your findings you mention in your article to Diane Downs children? Not unlike Diane, Alice did not want to share her pain in public. This is Budhu's story, as told to Kelly Burch . No matter how much Ive read, or how many of her constant at the time interviews I watch on YouTube, the things that come from her brain to her mouth never cease to amaze me. Once you are vilified in the media in the US, the way Downs and others have been, a lot of people shut their eyes and their mind to any other possibility than what was presented in the court of public opinion. And Steven was free to follow her lead or not. Apparently drug mafia wanted to punish her for messing her nose in forbidden places, not because she was getting any real business in that but simply because she had one of the poorest judgements a person can have. Page 26 of Case History. When you hear her in interviews she sounds more concerned with herself than her kids. Just state that at the beginning of the blog. As you might know, Dianes father passed away after many years of anguish over the fate of his daughter. As a result, he decided not to attend the rest of the trial. But I think that in all fairness, many of them dont even know the details of the case and have watched Small Sacrifices instead. As her brother mentioned, it would not be that farfetched for his sister to stop for someone considering that she was a person who lacked impulse control and the era. Only after these avenues are exhausted should non-relative placement be looked at. Within a few weeks, a judge had placed the surviving kids, Christie and Danny, in protective custody. It deserved as much attention as a Unicorn, a song or all the other hearsay floating around because at least, they came from real people signing official documents. The authorities wanted to see them mourn and fall apart. In 1992 I became involved in this work following my interest and research into a notorious murder trial that was held in Oregon many years ago. It wasnt their fault, it was the job of the social workers and the courts to make sure the kids were not isolated from family. Speculative? Thanks for posting for readers. Not right at all. Diane described the stranger that shot them on the road and a police artist came up with a sketch. She even provided the police with her own sketch. The Lifetime channel constantly makes movies based loosely on the truth; this approach is an effective weapon aimed at swaying public opinion about high-profile cases. is this a reason??? Gosh Donna, you really dont have a clue. Her release was recommended by a warden and a psychiatrist. It could be argued that he developed a relationship with the children and genuinely wanted them to join his family. She threw her keys yet was able to take off right away?? I would like to see her released because I do not believe in life without parole for any inmate with no priors who had a good conduct while incarcerated. I mention in the blog that Dianes mental health is in question so it is obvious that her encounter with her long lost daughter was going to be difficult. I guess he did not want too many people to know about the improprieties that happened in his courtroom. In the moment of who shot youmy momhave a hard time believing that could be coached. I dont understand how the family court managed to isolate 2 severely traumatized and grievously injured children from their entire family. Instead of blaming societal problems and working at finding solutions, prison always seem to be their option. My guess is the grandparents were so overwhelmed with Dianes case that they let the system take care of the kids at first. I have simply bothered researching the evidence and in some instances, the lack of it. While that makes her technically eligible for parole at some point (in her case 2009) it does not actually mean she has an end date or a release date. I talked about her still being locked up, all these years later, because I really want to know is it because we believe she will commit more crimes or is it because we need more revenge? There is also a recording where she says that she had no idea who shot them. I am glad that some articles remain. Ffs maybe u should go back to writing screenplays. I would like to raise the numerous issues with this blog. So it looks and sounds like she is getting special treatment because of her notoriety. The Diane Downs' Case Was no Small Sacrifice On May 19, 1983, Elizabeth Diane Downs and her three small children were shot on a country road near Springfield, Oregon. I will talk to Dianes brother. Why doesnt the innocent project get involved with her case. Christie was the primary witness in the case against her mother. I would also like to express my disbelief that the same judge presided over both the child welfare case and the criminal one. They should have stayed out of it instead of contributing to her revictimization. Dianes family could give you countless examples of the inaccuracies they found in her book. They removed them and proceeded to interrogate the poor girl until she gave them what they needed. In fact, watching that was the first time I heard her voice and saw her presence, it was a year or so later that old interviews showed up on YouTube. They are the ones who supposedly (according to Diane) screwed her up so badly. Lori, I luv how you ended your comment Lets also remember that this is the US of A and we dont lock people up for being narcissistic, antisocial histrionic individuals. A group of ladies formed a group called HELDD which stands for Help Exonerate & Liberate Diane Downs. I worked for county government child welfare for a decade.
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